Import Journey and Automate Retries in DESelect Engage

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Import Journey and Automate Retries in DESelect Engage

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Read the release notes for new import journey and automate retries features in DESelect Engage here.

Transcript: Import Journey and Automate Retries in DESelect Engage

Carley: Welcome my name is Carley I’m from the marketing team at DESelect and I just want to say hello to everyone joining today and we’re going to be showcasing our new import journey and automate retries features with a live demo we just launched them today and I want to introduce Sal who is here virtually right next to me he’s our senior product manager and he’s going to be taking over and doing the demo from here so Sal if you want to say anything we can go ahead and get started.

Sal: Thank you Carley and hello everyone I’m Sal as Carley has already said, so I don’t think there’s any point repeating that allow me to share my screen and we can start with a quick slide deck. Can you see my screen? Okay cool so as Carley mentioned already, we are here to showcase the two new features we built, that is going to save marketers that use SFMC tremendous amount of time.  This is me just in case if you didn’t know, and I want to go straight into it. 

Sal: Have you know have you ever found yourself spending a lot of time setting up Journeys and activities only to find that your campaigns still don’t deliver the the results you expected and even with all the effort you put in into setting up your Journeys accurately success is still not guaranteed staggering 95% of marketers unaware of the critical need to optimize their communication frequency this lack of optimization then leads to 51% unsubscribes primarily due to inconsistent email frequency so it’s a concerning reality that demands attention.

But you are not alone in facing this challenge many marketers across various industries rely on the gut feeling when it comes to engagement frequency and that’s where DESelect Engage comes in. With engaging new features import journey and automate retries marketers using SFMC can seamlessly import uh all types of multiple Journeys directly from Journey Builder into Engage choose the retry criteria and gain full control over the communication frequency so let’s have a look at how importing journey and automating retry works and how that would give you more time to strategize create campaigns and most importantly understand how your campaigns uh are performing it’s and its effectiveness.

So I’m now going to switch to a journey Builder tab here’s a journey are prepared for the purpose of the de demo and as you can see it’s fully validated and it has three message components now previously before the launch of these features you would have to users would have to create their Journeys in Journey builder then they would have to apply the Engage saturation control in front of each decision split now you can imagine these this journey only has three message components three decision splits or two if you had lots and lots of decision splits that can be a very time consuming exercise  but this was one of the steps and then the second step would be that the users would have to go to Engage and complete the create send action the amount of times they have the message component so in other words if you have three message components you need to create three sends that’s the repetitive action that that you have to complete if you have 50 message components in a journey you have to do it 50 times now you don’t have to do that again to go back to the journey right it doesn’t include any of the messaging Engage components, it simply has message components and the decision split and when do you want the the contacts to exit now I simply go back to Engage click on import journey and I search for the Journey that I want to import ours is called March promotion.

Sal:  Once I select I head over to the next model now at this point you can select the components that you want to create the sends for. So for example I want to create sends for all of the three promotion emails that I have I simply check the master and it’s all selected for me if for any reason I want to refer to my journey I don’t have to go back to the Journey Builder and look for it I can just click on this link and it would redirect me to the journey that I’ve selected for import I’ll just let this load to confirm that this is the case you can see it here March promotion2024 we can close this again okay I’m back on the import Journey process I once I select the components I want to create the sends for I move on then I apply the send frequency my desired frequency here is I only want to sends it once but you can also send a recurring usually on weekly daily monthly basis specify the intervals for the demo purpose I’m going to go with once only. 

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Carley: Sal just to jump in really quick we cannot see the Engage screen at the moment we can just see Journey Builder oh my bad okay sorry before you went too far no just letting you know 

Sal: I can recap no good that you stopped me. My my bad uh let me see okay I’m definitely sharing the entire desktop now so you can see all the tabs in my Chrome yes now we can see Engage and journey Builder right okay so very quickly to recap uh allow me to abandon this and then restart.

Sal: okay so this is a journey I prepared to import in the Journey Builder and I don’t do anything I don’t apply any of the Engage components I simply validate it and then head over to Engage Carley confirm you can still see my screen

Carley: all good perfect 

Sal: okay so it all begins by clicking on import journey and searching for the relevant Journey ours is called March promotion once I select then I get all of the components message components that I want to create the send for um users have a choice you can select few or select all is entirely up to you and you don’t need to go to the journey Builder if you want to refer to your journey you simply click on the hyperlink this will be provided throughout the import process you and then once selected once the components have been selected I click on next and here I can define uh the send frequency um for the purpose of the demo I’m going to go with ones but in the recurring you can specify you can schedule your sends on daily weekly monthly basis and even specify the intervals you want um like I said I’m for the demo purpose I’m going to go with send once only.

Sal: And then again I can apply the desired saturation control I want I think this works for me I want to apply the saturation control and not let the logic impact the sends and then I give a campaign type uh of course this is a promotion one and the last step of the import journey is uh the automation of the retries so here you can just simply turn the toggle off and specify how long do you want to try or how many attempts you want to make and on the intervals like on which days you want to do it so I’m going to go with two tries every five days yeah and the text dynamically adapts itself so users can understand very clearly that you have one original attempt which is the actual send itself and then two attempts will be made between the 6th and the 16th at 5day interval and once this is done then all I have to do is click on import and the journey is imported this in itself is saving hours and hours of work for the marketers that use SFMC and have to create the sends in Engage this has been streamlined now so as a result you can see we have imported all of our sends and they are presented here with the overview of the sense itself if at this stage now I want to observe the journeys that I’ve imported I click on backspace and I will find all of the journeys that were imported who imported them and again if you want to check out the journey at indented level to see what sends were created out of that import you can always observe that again if you don’t uh you spot something or plans change you can always delete these sends very easily or you can also click on it and fine tune the the frequency the saturation type you want to apply or even change the attempts you want to make.

Sal: At this stage then I want to go back to the journey overview page because you saw two different Penguins – blue one and orange one I just want to very quickly explain like what happens when you import a journey if you click on the links provided under the blue penguin it will take you to I’m just waiting for it to load it will take you to the journey that you just imported which was overwritten and we added the watch component in there and I would explain in a second what it does but if you click on it as well is pretty self uh explanatory yeah the watch component here is is used to synchronize the journeys now the question might be like why would I need to synchronize the journey well the effect we wanted to have on the users is give them the freedom sorry I might have clicked on the wrong one I have this Zoom Banner at the top yeah this is the one I created so the effect we wanted to have on the users is always provide a journey that they can freely edit at any time without having to worry and deal with the saturation controls so you would see now if I go back again and I click on the link provided underneath the orange penguin you see the same Journey just waiting for it to load right okay so all of the Engage components I’ve added have been added now just to explain what happens because our journey the that we imported was in a draft mode the draft mode got overwritten and we added the Engage saturation controls to it we also created a new copy and added the watch component to it so this is basically if you now I go back to Engage.

Sal: I just want to show you the the tool tip if you click if you hover on the tool tip it clearly explains that these are the editable journeys you can edit this at any time and the changes as long as the watch component is not removed or deleted the changes would be reflected in the journey with the saturation control components in many ways you never have to deal with the saturation controls again you never have to apply them manually neither do you have to look at those Journeys that have the saturation controls as long as you keep the journeys with the watch components up to date then you can always always go and always make any changes having said that the only time you do want to go to the journey with the saturation control is when you want to activate them naturally these have saturation control so you want this to become into effect so that’s the the reason why we created this logic if you import a draft we overwrite it and create a copy you can also import an active Journey we would do the same we would create a copy and add the the watch component to it and we would also create another draft and add the saturation controls to it so these are the activateable uh not sorry these are the journeys you can activate um I think in terms of the demo that is about it the only thing I wanted to show is if I go back again to the journey with the watch component and I make any changes like for example I add okay I want to do another email I add an email component I select a very a message very quickly uh sorry wrong one my bad yeah I’ve added another email uh I’m just going to call it uh promotion fourth and I would save and validate this just waiting for it to validate okay so I made the changes to the journey that has the watch component and these changes will be reflected in the journey with uh the saturation controllers I may need to refresh allow me to do that here we are promotion fourth email has been added as well so the whole value of this is it saves SFMC marketers meticulous amount of work and error prone work as well and a lot of time and effort that goes into preparing the journeys and adding the decision splits in Engage component in front of decision splits and then having to create a send for each of the message component in a journey. If you have 10 20 50 Journeys a month that’s a lot of work there’s a lot of time that will be saved now because all you have to do is the initial Journey once created in a state you go to Engage and import that and that is about it. 

Sal: Carley I think now we can open up if anyone has questions if they want to put them in the chat we can go ahead and answer some.

Carley: One is: Can I import a journey that already has Engage saturation or watch components?

Sal: Yeah that’s a good question. So um the answer is sadly no and it’s in in users favors as well so you don’t have to add the components um you just have to prepare your journey and make sure that there are no Engage components added to it head over to Engage and then import it as we import the journey we do this work for you so subsequently the the other effect is if you have a journey that you haven’t imported yet but have added the watch component or the saturation control component it would not go through the import similarly if you have imported a journey and as a result we’ve added these components you can not report those journeys so it’s actually in your favor not to do the hard work and let us do that. 

Carley: Cool does anyone else have anything? We can always ask questions later but best to ask them right now with the expert right here.

Sal:  I’m not sure if I’m an expert but thank you

Carley: I have one but before I read mine I will read one that someone else submitted.

Carley:  When the journey with the saturation controls are activated what do we do with the journey copy?

Sal: Can you sorry can you repeat the question again so when the journey with the saturation controls are activated what do we do with the journey copy with the saturation control is active. So um the copy just remains you can always make changes uh and it would sync once you activate a journey which a saturation control then that becomes your main of course that then then you are subjected to SFMC limitation that you cannot amend an active Journey so you have to pause and and and make the changes but the whole part or the whole reason why you have this way of you know Imports like uh one with watch component and one with saturation is you can freely go make your changes and never have to look at or or worry about actually doing the saturation control um but that journey in itself is the one that you need to activate so the reason or what’s the main purpose for these Journeys with saturation control yeah you you activate them and once you activate them then that’s it there there’s nothing else to do after that.

Carley: There was another one that said can I import a Journey triggered through custom channels?

Sal: That’s a great question um so we do support custom channels as long as we have a data extension in in SFMC but for the first version of these features um we right now we only support the native SFMC channel so Journeys uh they were triggered through native SFMC channels but again again to retrade we do support custom channels as a whole and Engage but it’s um yeah this is not covered in in the first iteration or the first version of the these features.

Carley:  Okay and final question unless anyone has some ones they want to submit um what would happen if I delete the Engage watch component?

Sal: Yeah that’s a great question um am I still screen sharing yes I am um so if you click on the Engage watch component it would it would give you the warning as well nice thing is that you can always go back um to where is it linked on Engage but yeah sadly it’s not advisable to delete or move it away from the end of the branches it would simply break the synchronization so if you by chance delete this and make the changes right these changes will not be reflected in the journey that has the saturation control and remember the ones with the saturation control are the ones that you want to activate so it’s always advisable not to delete or move it away from the end of the branch.

Carley:  okay if that’s all the questions for now I guess we can wrap up the fastest webinar ever in a good way um thank you everyone for attending the recording will be available on our site and it will also be emailed to everyone um thank you again and have a great rest of your day.

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Reporting capabilities

Reporting capability so I’m just going to start here on the left so this is where we can set the date range so what date do we want to look at so let’s say that I’m just interested in the data uh from the last two weeks as you can see immediately we are seeing this graph here um um I’ll come to the pie chart in a second but in the table here we can see okay in total we sent uh we sent messages to 1,520 people of which 793 were included and 727 were excluded again this is excluded based on campaigns that were planned campaigns that were actually sent and the rules so if you have a rule for example that says we will not send more than one email per day to a contact UM and you plan two campaigns to be sent on the same day then for one of the two that contact will be excluded for the first one the contact would be included or not necessarily the first one the one with the highest priority because you can assign different priorities to different campaign types um which allows the platform to Define yeah which ones should we send and which ones should we not send given the rules how do we optimize everything best but so coming back to this if we don’t select any filters if we don’t select any grouping we’ll see a total um which is visualized also in this nice graph so in the graph here we do see that same 52% of people that we’re seeing uh here which is the people that were included for the other 47% we do see different uh slices of of red where each slice represents the main rule that ex that caused the exclusion so if I have a rule here uh for example three cents per day um like 10% of the people here did not receive a certain communication because we were hitting that rule because we were trying to send more than three emails per day to these people so as you can see by default I applied no filters I applied no grouping and I I’ll like I’ll report on the total but what we can also do is dive into

Filtering by channel and campaign type

Jonathan: specific uh channels campaign types or contact categories so let’s say I’m interested only in email that I can apply that filter here and you see that in that case my data looks a bit different um you can also select multiple channels as um as like together as one so that’s very useful and then we can do the same for campaign types so if I want to see like how well is my uh my campaign type offer doing uh when it comes to these rules again you can you can do a deep dive please know that you can create different rules for different campaign types so you can say for example um we can send three offers in a week but we’re never going to send more than one newsletter in a month and then last type of filter that we make available here is the contact categories so all your contacts can be put into different categories um contact can also have multiple contact categories as one uh at once depending really on on your use case on what makes sense but a typical example would be we have customers we had leave we have leads we have prospects and you may want to treat those people differently maybe say okay to Elite I’m not going to send more than two emails in a week but to an active customer we can send more we have a tighter relationship there they do expect more maybe so you can have different rules so again uh you can filter down uh like diving into just one specific lead for example or you can go

Grouping Filters

Jonathan: do a combination of these different filters like I want to see when it comes to leads uh and only the email Channel what does my data looklike okay uh so that’s for the filter and then the last thing that I want to show here is the grouping so as I said before if I’m not doing any grouping I will just see this total row but uh I Can also show the data grouped by a channel so in that case each line here is going to represent one channel so I have SMS postal Channel email push um I’ll also call it out we do have a deleted line here that’s because we had one channel which we later deleted but we did still we do still have those those historical records right we do still know that a sent happened on the channel so that’s how we we decided to deal with it but um as you can see super useful to slice and dice data in the way that you find useful so you can do that by both Channel campaign type by different types of campaigns and uh contact category right so again just to summarize we do have um the pie chart here the different slices represent the different rows or sorry the different rules that caused the exclusion so different rules that were hit like the three cents per day uh so that would be an indication if you say okay I’m happy that 10% of my my contacts are not receiving a communication because we have this rule of three cents per day perfect uh if you see that oh maybe 50% of my people are not receiving because I have a certain rule um you know that’s uh maybe a basis for you to to look at that rule again and reconsider um again you can filter on channels campaign types and contact categories we do always show a total as as well um but you can also Group by any of these Dimensions to slice and dice the data in the way that you see use find useful so again why would you want to do all of this um is to look at how your saturation control program is performing uh if any of the rules that you have need um need to be tweaked if any of the prioritizations that you have need to be tweaked um you can slice and Di data the way you want to you can look at the different date ranges that you find useful um uh and so again this is really to help you fine-tune your um strategy when it comes to frequency capping uh but also prioritization of different uh campaign xz individual sends and contexts

Kyra: questions um no questions in the chat yet um I did just want to explain here um that this feature um is basically um expanding the current um reporting features that we had where you can drill down into individual sends and contexts um this new View kind of gives you um that more general information that like Jonathan mentioned can influence your strategy a bit better um and give you that broader view that I think you need when you are determining um all of your campaign prioritizations um so if you don’t have any yeah go ahead well actually now that

Going deeper into the details: Tags and reasons for exclusions 

Jonathan: we’re not on the topic I I may as well just quickly show like um I did already show how you can look like on a on a campaign level we call it sense here uh like globally you can just see like the main numbers here which you can also go deeper like if I go to my sneakers promo I can see some details uh of that scent so I have a name I can have a description campaign type the channel as I said we can have different priorities we can also assign tags to it uh so a teag could be whatever Dimension whatever information you find useful so it could be like B2B b2c um or like a name of a campaign or  strategy or whatever is useful for you there also we see that result but here users can also go deeper into the details so also here we can see all the different rows like all the different contexts that were included in this campaign we can see if they were excluded or included uh again with those reasons for the exclusion you can also see at what time descent happened or the decision was made so this is this is normally when the contact goes through Journey Builder uh when it hits the Engage component Little Penguin where we make the decision yes this contact should receive this sent or no they should not at this point um so that’s why you can have all that information here um you can also hear search for specific contact so this really allows you to uh yeah to find the outcome for this campaign for one specific contact and if you want to go even deeper you can then click through to that contact and see okay for this specific contact which can have certain contact category uh which can uh here you can also see when was the last time that contact went through a journey you will also see that same kind of representation where which rules caused the Conta to be excluded from certain sends and then here you see all the the historical sense that happened for this contact UM and if available also any plan sense so this is really the 360 view I know it’s uh it’s like a really overused word that really just provides you the all the insights with all the sends that happened for contact all the plan sense that happened which for each of those sends whether the contact was included or excluded or would be included or excluded in the future all

Q&A

Kyra: right all right well I um if we’re done in the product with the live demo um we’ll hop back over um do these slides give me one moment um and we have um time for Q&A now um if you have any questions like I’ve said uh please drop them in the Q&A um little chat window at the bottom um while everybody is maybe prep prepping their questions um we do have a free checklist for you um we have a full checklist put together in our resources section of the website that is the left QR code on whether or not a frequency capping solution could really benefit your your organization um there are a series of questions you can ask yourself and your team maybe to determine if this would be a good fit for you um if you’re viewing all this stuff and you already feel like it’s a great fit um you want to learn more the DESelect Engage landing page is that QR code on your right so feel free to scan either of those um you can always reach out through the website or you can contact us uh directly Jonathan or myself um and we’ll get you any information you need um so don’t ask your questions I have a question for you

Kyra: Jonathan um how long would you say a an Engaged setup takes if you have to configure all of those custom settings

Jonathan: so the setup in Engage is typically quickly done like you can do it in half an hour or so so what we see with our customers is that it’s it’s more the decisions that they have to

make as an organization beforehand that take a bit longer uh because typically you do want to align with uh different departments um it’s often also not very clear like who should actually decide how many messages you want to send to to people um but especially when it comes to the prioritization let’s say we have a slightly larger uh company with uh 10 marketers in the department each marketer is the responsible for a different product or a different type of

campaign then they have to agree upon a certain um priority between those different scents and that’s not always easy um without a frequency capping solution or a prioritization solution that in in reality that translates to a weekly meeting uh where it’s more like politics and who can shout the loudest that determines who can uh do their sense first which then typically means that uh they they reach like the biggest audience um but once you’re once you have had that conversation internally um it’s really objective uh the system handles it for you there’s no more like politics to it um and and you can get the optimal outcome for everyone involved both the marketers and the and the respondents in the end the contacts that you that you reach out

to I mean amazing um

Kyra: I think we have one other question in the queue but my Zoom UI has disappeared because I’m sharing my screen I know are you able to read the question oh yeah I can see um and

Jonathan: how complicated is the process uh so I assume the question is how complicated the process is for setting up Engage so there I would say yeah it’s really it’s quite straightforward so we do the installation that takes about 15 minutes um and then you have access to the view that I shared before so you see the calendar um yes there are a few things that you can set up so what do we need to know what are the different campaign types that you work with so as I showed campaign types could be up offers newsletters refer friend and soon another thing we want to know is do you have different categories of contacts what we call contact categories so there the only thing we we request is that you create one data extension that contains all your contacts where where we can where you assign each of them to one or multiple uh context categories so we know who are the leads who are the prospects if you want to apply different rules for those different uh people um and then with those uh and then also lastly just indicating which channels you want to use and then with those things set up you can start defining those rules and those rules can be very easy like no more than three emails per week or no more than uh one SMS per month or as a last example uh no more than three emails per week for a certain campaign type but uh we can allow five per month for another campaign type or for certain contact categories so once that is set up the system will just start processing every day is going to uh recalculate uh So based on the events that you put on your calendar is going to yeah see for each of the contexts what is in store what what sense happen for this contact what cents are being planned and it will continuously make the evaluations of include this contact from this campaign exclude this contact from that campaign um so it’s go it’s pretty smooth

Kyra: yeah and of course if you were setting that up you would have one of our customer success managers guiding you through that entire process so you wouldn’t be alone in the setup um and our team would make sure you get the best results possible exactly yeah okay if we don’t have any more questions um I do think this is a great stopping point um like I said before if anybody on the call wants to see Engage a bit deeper please do book a demo with us um and we will get you a more personalized demo and we can drill down into any feature you would like to see further good all right thank you so much Jonathan for your time um and we’ll catch everyone on the next one thank you

Jonathan: Again if anyone has any questions I’m available please reach out to me or using the the QR codes here happy to help great have a great day everyone bye bye Jonathan or myself um and we’ll get you any information you need.

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